there are spies out there in the cia do not become completely stymied. it is this interesting moment in which the one hand and was leading a process, which is deeply involved to rethink the way these institutions, not just the fbi, but particularly the fbi did their work and at the same time trying to protect and strengthen it and strengthen the public confidence to go forward. so that's the kind of moment it was. >> when you're attorney general shortly after, you faced a different kind of crisis, but one that obviously should the nation with 9/11. i wonder to what extent it the issues and challenges you face. he drew upon the legacy of edward levi. are conscious of that legacy and not on trying to the problem. >> in many ways the challenges are different. the challenge faced by attorney general levi related to a distortion of the responsibility of the department based on politics. we faced before info, international in scope they killed our people a single day than was killed at pearl harbor and did it in the heart of american commerce, in a state, not